原帖由 yangmetal 于 2010-4-14 17:45 发表 http://bbs.headphoneclub.com/images/common/back.gif
本真的东西，又不是近两年才有。不是说了么，数码录音的LP比cd还便宜呢～～
不扯淡了，少些人抢片子也是好事;P
这次阿羊带点啥片片呢？:lol
原帖由 emmanuelle 于 2010-4-14 10:53 发表 http://bbs.headphoneclub.com/images/common/back.gif
对于本真演绎而言，CD还就是比LP多多了。
你我喜欢的唱片很不一样，用不着那么小家子气。
eh……到最后还是我小家子气……
anyway，不吵架，爱玩啥玩啥，但也别无缘无故说些没来由的批评，比如片源少之类的。
ls，片子可能困难点，不知道怎么带，要么带很多才能安全点
没事啦，那就不要带了，我找本地问问渠道吧^^。
原帖由 anderson 于 2010-4-14 11:14 发表 http://bbs.headphoneclub.com/images/common/back.gif
没事啦，那就不要带了，我找本地问问渠道吧^^。
主要是很大，很薄，要有量才能比较安全。这次回来带的东西有点多，不一定能带上，要有的话我跟你说吧。我上次搞的一批里面好多重复的东西。想要总能有。
原帖由 pig2man 于 2010-4-14 11:46 发表 http://bbs.headphoneclub.com/images/common/back.gif
地球上所有的商家都宣称自己的DAC是"jitter immune"的。。。
还真忘了这一点了。
解码器的档次高下之分，还是很清晰的。美国三小强，算是万元左右及接近万元的代表（还有GRACE DESIGN M902等），它们各有风格，水平很多人也清楚了。MINI-DAC改掉那个外置开关电源后，风格还是很鲜明的，DA11声音最柔和温润，适合PC类音源的特征，DAC1U，搭配好的转盘更好，搭配PC，我个人认为（很多人也是这么觉得的）不够温暖和厚声，属于素质不错但听感不太好的。
再上去，2万元档次，WEISS DAC2就是一个代表了。还有美国Bel Canto DAC3，还有英国CHORD DAC64等。再上去，3-5万的，Lavry有非常牛的GOLD，高级录音室里用的，WEISS有新出的DAC202，还有奥菲斯极品声卡，还有BERKELEY等。再上去，10万元价格，那是dCS，MSB，Esoteric等的天下了，不谈了。
白版赶紧接着说msb呀
Bel Canto DAC3和dac2小白能谈谈？
进来学习
没有把BEL CANTO DAC3和WEISS DAC2一起比较的机会，但凭感觉说，风格还是不同。BEL CANTO是更多美国风格，WEISS则是精致鲜明的瑞士之声。
我有个意见，解码器的型号叫DAC什么的，太多了，大家雷同。DAC1，DAC2，DAC3，DAC64，DAC202，MINI-DAC，SUPER-DAC，ULTRA-DAC，就差没出现DAC4，DAC5了。建议厂家别再叫DAC什么什么了。:P
白版能不能做个PC下的dac和同价位CD机的比较呢？
比如DAC2和2W级CD机的比较或者MSB和10W元CD机的比较
原帖由 小白 于 2010-4-14 18:45 发表 http://bbs.headphoneclub.com/images/common/back.gif
没有把BEL CANTO DAC3和WEISS DAC2一起比较的机会，但凭感觉说，风格还是不同。BEL CANTO是更多美国风格，WEISS则是精致鲜明的瑞士之声。
我有个意见，解码器的型号叫DAC什么的，太多了，大家雷同。DAC1，DAC2，D ...
若是能加上罗技的Transporter，这个价位的PCHIFI解码器就齐活了哈。
原帖由 candey 于 2010-4-14 00:31 发表 http://bbs.headphoneclub.com/images/common/back.gif
恩，这么看来我家声音完全应该能接受了.........;P
SARACON很好
其实真的不应该用笔记本的
AYRE D-1的曾经用家，偶想高调也不能的飘过..............
葛兄，时钟GPS用的爽吧........
我现在只给P70用时钟，就爽的吐血啊，哈哈哈:lol
HP双恒温晶振真的很NB! 秒稳达1x10的负12次方（0.001ppb），比铷原子钟还高一个数量级！(g0rb 才0.05ppb)
单位换算：1ppm=1000ppb
最近在恶补GPS恒温钟与铷频标知识。。。。。。。。
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原帖由 sentence 于 2010-4-14 18:49 发表 http://bbs.headphoneclub.com/images/common/back.gif
白版能不能做个PC下的dac和同价位CD机的比较呢？
比如DAC2和2W级CD机的比较或者MSB和10W元CD机的比较
关于一个pc用dac能达到多少价位台机的比较似乎已经讨论了很久，
得到的结论更多是转盘>pc解码，好多少？值不值？这些问题总在纠缠烧友尤其是没法去试听的烧友，
在pc解码和cdp之间徘徊做不出选择的大有人在
支持小白做的这种不同档次的dac横向对比 对于烧友来说确实是福音
原帖由 小白 于 2010-4-14 18:45 发表 http://bbs.headphoneclub.com/images/common/back.gif
没有把BEL CANTO DAC3和WEISS DAC2一起比较的机会，但凭感觉说，风格还是不同。BEL CANTO是更多美国风格，WEISS则是精致鲜明的瑞士之声。
我有个意见，解码器的型号叫DAC什么的，太多了，大家雷同。DAC1，DAC2，D ...
昨天一个MINERVA用户说PK过DAC3和MINERVA，说结果是DAC3被砍头，ULTRA AUDIO的DAC3新的VB版+外接电源的评测里，还是比不上MINERVA
“Comparisons: ARC DAC7, Weiss Minerva, Bel Canto e.One DAC3VB & VBS1
One of the big stories of 2009 was the return to prominence of a nearly forgotten component category, the standalone digital-to-analog converter, led by the growth in computer-based audio. Now many DACs that are considered to be at or near the state of the art are available for what are, by high-end standards, somewhat affordable prices. I’ve had some of the best of this bunch in my system over the past 18 months: the Weiss Minerva ($4500), the Audio Research Corporation DAC7 ($3495), and, most recently, the Bel Canto e.One DAC3VB with VBS1 power supply ($4190 for both). Originally, this sidebar was to include only my brief impressions of the Bel Cantos’ sound, but a question from a reader prompted me to provide something that might be more helpful: a brief comparison of the three DACs just mentioned.
The ARC DAC7 has a smooth, clean, simply beautiful midrange -- male and female voices sounded outstanding throughout. As I said in my review, the DAC7 "imparted more clarity than I’m used to hearing in the upper midrange and lower treble," along with a wholly listenable sound that unfailingly drew me into the music. Though not the last word in extreme-high-frequency resolution, the DAC7 was striking in its ability to render singers, especially, with dramatic tone color and natural timbres. You won’t get listener fatigue with the DAC7; instead, you’ll be rewarded with a sound that will make your music collection more approachable and inviting.
The Weiss Minerva, on the other hand, is for those who want that last iota of resolution, particularly in the upper registers. The Minerva is stellar at the frequency extremes, and will reveal all the fine nuances of "Red Book" CDs, and especially of higher-resolution recordings. With the Minerva, there’s no place to hide -- it reveals the truth of a recording like almost no other DAC. As I said in my review, "I could listen deep into Crown Imperial (DVD-R, Reference RR-112 HRx), hearing such details as tinkling bells with absolute clarity -- something I’ve not heard bettered by any system."
Then came Bel Canto’s e.One combo of DAC3VB and VBS1. In many respects, the e.Ones were sonically somewhere between the ARC and Weiss DACs. The DAC3VB-VBS1 seemed to uncover slightly more resolution than the DAC7, mainly in the highs, but still didn’t have quite the Minerva’s utterly clean ultra-extension in the upper registers. The DAC3VB-VBS1 was quite listenable and never grating, just like the ARC, but could reveal the flaws in poor recordings almost as well as the Weiss. Where the DAC3VB-VBS1 improved on both the DAC7 and the Minerva was in the bass. It played bass-heavy music with more weight and stronger drive, which led to an overall firmer, fuller character. Electric bass guitar, for instance, sounded more physically present in my room.
Overall, these are three winners that will suit the different sonic priorities of different listeners.
. . . Jeff Fritz
jeff@ultraaudio.com ”http://www.ultraaudio.com/equipment/bel_canto_dac3vb_vbs1.htm
