白老大 发表于 2008-8-24 20:45:13

原帖由 小白 于 2008-8-24 20:29 发表 http://bbs.headphoneclub.com/images/common/back.gif
记得当年MG HEAD只是300美金的耳放,这个价格在西方基本是最低的了. 基本没有低于300美金的耳放了,更不用说是胆耳放了,这个价位对老外来说根本就是不可能做出来的. 就算500美金,在国外也属于最平价的耳放一类. 在这个 ...

            我从不用補品堆砌产品! 老外卻喜欢把我的DD拿去大補!

http://www.bellaextreme.com/bella%20custom%20builds.htm

大補清单.


"Award winning legendary performance of this very musical powerhouse has been further refined with this new MK II version.

Legendary performance is now even better with improved circuit, select transformers and a tight new chassis.

True balanced inputs are now added as a standard feature. Tubes, mounted on a separate level at the top are isolated from hefty transformers for added clarity.

New bias and protection circuits have been developed for stability, reliability and more precise biasing. Dual level vertical chassis construction is stronger, better vibration controlled and occupies less floor space." Here is a comprehensive list of everything that is performed on these units. As you can see, these are very time consuming projects taking up to 30 days to complete (depending on work load) but current owners can assure you they are well worth the wait.

[*]Reference Grade V-Cap Teflon capacitors installed in the signal path coupling stages. (16 pieces)
The capacitors are mounted using a high quality double sidedadhesive tape as well as being secured with zip-ties to eliminated vibration. We do NOT use "hot glue" to secure components in our amplifier products.[*]Inner stage coupling capacitors are replaced with V-Cap Teflon capacitors (4 pieces total).
These capacitors are securely mounted in a way that eliminates mechanical vibration as well as radio frequency interference.[*]Mills non-inductive resistors replace the input tube cathode resistors. [*]Mills non-inductive resistors, 16 pieces, are used for the grid stop applications. All grid stop resistors are mounted directly to the grid pin of each power tube eliminating all unnecessary wiring. It is a common practice to mount the body of grid stopper resistors as close to the tube grid as possible. Many tube amp manufacturers do not utilize this practice. All grid stopresistors are then mounted directly to the leads of the coupling capacitors and all leads are cut to minimum length.[*]Mills non-inductive resistors, 16 pieces, are used for the screen grid applications. These resistors are removed
from their circuit mounting boards and also mounted directly to the screen grid pin of each power tube eliminating all
unnecessary wiring. [*]High quality 5 watt Mills non-inductive resistors used in cathode ground locations. 24 pieces.[*]Dale/Vishay 1 watt 1% non-magnetic resistors used throughout the signal path. 40-60+ pieces. The signal leads of these resistors are shortened to the shortest lengths possible[*]Dale/Vishay 1 watt, 1% resistors are used in the bias stage in series with the coupling capacitors. These resistors are
mounted in series with the coupling capacitors and then into the bias stage circuit boards. Again, we keep all signal wiring
as short as possible. [*]Dale/Vishay 3 watt 1%, non-magnetic resistors utilized throughout various power supply locations.[*]All exposed resistor leads throughout these amplifiers have heatshrink applied to help reduce mechanical vibration as well
as preventing circuit shorts.[*]The grounding layout is reworked to provide the best possible results with a dead quite background and lower noise floor.[*]Allpower supply filter banks are bypassed with SoniCap Platinum Teflon units. Each power supply filter rail receives its own bypass unit. Total of 4 Teflon bypass capacitors[*]Bybee Quantum Purifiers are installed in the B+ voltage of the power supply directly at the rectifying stage. (4 pieces total).[*]Bybee Quantum Purifiers are installed in the input single of the single ended input. (2 pieces total).[*]Fairchild "Ultra Fast - Soft Recovery"diodes are utilized in the rectifying stage of the power supply. The diodes are
mounted directly to the capacitors of the power supply.[*]High quality signal wire both from the input RCA jack to the first stage of the circuitry as well as for the balanced input signal.[*]RCA input jacks are high quality gold plated "RA Jack" RCA jacks. (optional. See notes below)[*]High quality Neutrik XLR connectors are used for the balanced inputs.[*]High quality RoHS compliant Silver Solder used throughout[*]Bench tested for 2 hours[*]Minimum 12 hour burn in[*]Labor - 17-20+ hours per pairEXtreme Hurricane MK II V-Cap - $12,200 pr.   Output power:

Output impedance:
Input impedance:
Input sensitivity:
Frequency response:
Frequency response:
THD:
THD:
S/N:
Nominal Voltage gain:
Global NFB in dB:
Inputs:
Dimensions:
Shipping dimensions:
Net weight:
Shipping weight:
200 Watts (pentode/tetrode mode).
100 Watts (triode mode)
4, 8, 16 Ohms.
100kHz.
600mV
12 Hz – 41kHz. (At 1.0 Watt)
18Hz – 30kHz. (At full power)
0.3% (at 1 Watt)
5% at full power
88 dB (at full power)
50.46dB
0, zip, niltch, NONE!
Single ended and balanced
350mm., 13 ¼” W X 350mm.,13 ¼” D X 325mm., 12 ½” H
470mm.,18 ½” W X 470mm.,18 ½” D X 450mm.,17 ½” H
38 kg., 84lbs.
95lbs
Below are a pair of EXtreme Hurricane MK II amplifiers burning in prior to being delivered to their new owner.
Click on pictures to enlarge

smert 发表于 2008-8-24 20:46:43

原帖由 cpstream 于 2008-8-24 20:29 发表 http://bbs.headphoneclub.com/images/common/back.gif
我们在外包外贸上,经常为一顶帽子或者鞋底的指标互相拆台,恶性降价,然后从成本和劳力上找回来,导致整个国家品牌形象下降(低质量,血汗工厂)。希望厂家总结一下,公关也要先把自己周围站稳了,再往外辐射,没会跑就想飞,总有人看你不惯的。

这个就是著名的Prisoner's Dilemma囚徒困境,最后的结果就是自相残杀。
国外通过强大的行业协会来改变这样的格局,而中国目前为之还是一盘散沙。

cpstream 发表于 2008-8-24 20:49:29

哟,您还知道这哪,可以用GAME THEORY来解释吗:lol

smert 发表于 2008-8-24 20:52:33

Prisoner's Dilemma不过是Game Theory里最基本的理论而已,用来解释价格战是最合适不过了

白老大 发表于 2008-8-24 20:56:38

原帖由 小白 于 2008-8-24 20:37 发表 http://bbs.headphoneclub.com/images/common/back.gif
Antique Sound Lab这个牌子到底是否白老大个人所有,还是与老外合作? 还是老外请你设计? 请说明. :)

Antique sound Lab 为香港公司,我占80%,20%為另一香港XD. 老外没有控股! 设计主要由我操作,当然由於各分销及OEM/ODM品牌提供了大量意見及技朮指導,把他们独门秘方露一点点出来,Divergent Technologies 工程部门则一直全力配合,提供技术技援,否則闭门造车也难為国外接受!

[ 本帖最后由 白老大 于 2008-8-24 21:08 编辑 ]

小白 发表于 2008-8-24 20:56:47

"囚徒困境"不是一个理论,是一个悖论——每个人都做出自己的最佳策略,但实际结果却是每个人都受损.

归根到底是中国厂家的产品策略决定了只能陷入"囚徒困境"——产品不求独创,不求设计,不求质量,不立品牌,只求低价,这个策略是死胡同. 走下去只能是成为囚徒,没有其他可能的结果.

cpstream 发表于 2008-8-24 20:57:25

相互和谐……雷死我了

小白 发表于 2008-8-24 20:57:27

原帖由 白老大 于 2008-8-24 20:56 发表 http://bbs.headphoneclub.com/images/common/back.gif


Antique sound Lab 为香港公司,我占80%,20%為另一香港XD. 老外没有控股! 设计主要由我操作,当然由於各分销及OEM/ODM品牌接供了大量意見及技朮指導,把他们独门秘方露一点点出来,Divergent Technologies 工程部门则 ...


谢谢透露.

cpstream 发表于 2008-8-24 20:59:02

谢谢……FUCK YOU ……

我得去打球了,在家里被CCAV雷,出门被人拿球雷,我容易么我……

cpstream 发表于 2008-8-24 21:02:29

不是吧怎么升英国国旗了……………………

白老大 发表于 2008-8-24 21:04:18

原帖由 cpstream 于 2008-8-24 20:59 发表 http://bbs.headphoneclub.com/images/common/back.gif
谢谢……FUCK YOU ……

我得去打球了,在家里被CCAV雷,出门被人拿球雷,我容易么我……


这句不文名的话还是別在説吧!

cpstream 发表于 2008-8-24 21:05:13

不是我说的,我转CCAV的……

8492 发表于 2008-8-24 21:08:56

不错,蛮热闹地~~;P ;P
不管这次结果怎样,俺还是为国货加油!!期待国产hifi产品能多出现在世界舞台……:lol :lol

胡侃侃999 发表于 2008-8-24 21:40:35

原帖由 cpstream 于 2008-8-24 20:59 发表 http://bbs.headphoneclub.com/images/common/back.gif
谢谢……FUCK YOU ……

我得去打球了,在家里被CCAV雷,出门被人拿球雷,我容易么我…… [/quote



你就一SB,看懂了吗?

你是一傻B,FUCKOFF!

nadesicozhao 发表于 2008-8-24 22:53:26

LS注意啦:lol
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