歌德出GR10了

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headroom上已经有卖了,399刀貌似,还是单单元,阻抗变为32欧,不知道咋样

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Been listening for 1-2 hours since received this morning.....



Pretty remarkable IEM.  The first words out of my mouth to describe would be incredibly detailed, transparent, balanced and natural sounding.



It is a different animal in that it has this airiness where all the harmonics just float throughout your head.  It is very pleasureable and almost intoxicating.  While I wouldn't necessarily say it has a huge soundstage, this airy space around all of the instruments creates plenty of "room".  GR8 has it too and it seems unique to the Grado's and I have not heard it from any Ety, Westone or Shure product.  It would seem quite obvious Grado was seeking out this kind of sound and certainly achieved it.



This GR10 is the most naturally sounding detailed IEM I have ever heard.  It does indeed have a good 15-20% more treble detail than the GR8 and is also amazingly transparent.  You really "see into" the music.  Because of this it will pick up flaws in a recording but this hyper-detail does not seem harsh or grainy much at all....it is very smooth.  I have not heard the REO's or e-Q7 but it is certainly Ety level detail in every regard but sounds much better due to the airiness of the harmonics and a bit more bass.  It is not cold or sterile as some use to describe Ety's.  Quite the opposite.



As far as efficiency, while the ohms changed from 120 to 32 (from GR8), I would only consider the GR10 slightly more efficient that GR8.  I'm sure an amp would make it sound even better but it does not require one.  Also, I am only detecting slightly more bass than GR8 (5-10%?).  I think Grado was consciously careful of this not to create too much bass to throw the balance off and I think most IEM's out there are aiming for a funner sound which usually includes more bass, perhaps too much to claim balanced perfection no matter how many drivers.  It would not be a stretch to say GR10 is approaching harmonic perfection in an IEM.  The biggest change from GR8 seems to be more treble, a slightly fuller sound and more overall clarity.  Again, to have such transparency and detail while still retaining such smoothness is remarkable IMHO.



In summary, If you liked GR8 you will certainly like GR10.  Is it worth $400?  On one hand I would say not because of lack of accesories, case, etc.  On the other hand, I think it is a very different beast and this Grado (what seems to be becoming an IEM trademark with them) airiness and loft to the harmonics seems unique among all IEM's.  It is no copycat of anything so in that regard, they can charge what they want.  I would guess Grado knows exactly what they have with this product.  Knows it won't sell a ton of them because so many want a BIGGER sound, but they also know they accomplished the precise sound they wanted. The GR10 is almost a reminder of what music should sound like or use to sound like from the analog days.  It sounds as good as any other $400 IEM I have heard, just different (and unique).  It could be the most naturally balanced among any IEM out there.  I think a good percentage of listeners out there prefer a larger robust sort of sound presentation and those people may not think all that much of GR10 (at $400).  But for those that are seeking harmonic perfection, loads of detail but balanced and natural...there may not be another IEM out there that does it as well.



I can't really say if I prefer it over SE535 and W3 yet because it is such a different beast and it is too new.  I will try to judge that after many more days of listening and will provide more thoughts in general on the GR10.

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溢美之词，滚滚而来……平衡、自然、空气感，丰满温润……挺枪的

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原帖由 Evangelion 于 2010-11-1 08:54 发表
溢美之词，滚滚而来……平衡、自然、空气感，丰满温润……挺枪的

小E同学英语好棒啊，偶看到个IEM就呆了…

Evangelion

原帖由 ev2638914 于 2010-11-1 09:54 发表 小E同学英语好棒啊，偶看到个IEM就呆了…

高考英语不及格、六级考了350……让我上英文网站、看欧美影视剧，勉强还能保持清醒，一旦跟考试搭边，立马睡着……咱只认识那几个单词，大段大段不认识的统统浮云，浮云！

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ev2638914

原帖由 Evangelion 于 2010-11-1 10:53 发表
高考英语不及格、六级考了350……让我上英文网站、看欧美影视剧，勉强还能保持清醒，一旦跟考试搭边，立马睡着……咱只认识那几个单词，大段大段不认识的统统浮云，浮云！

彼此彼此，高考英语80的路过…
大学退步了，英语…

主机

后面一段The bass:  Relative to most of what else is out there it leans towards the lighter side.  It is perhaps a good 10% less than SE535 perhaps more.  Your ears need to adjust.  After a while, the balance seems very true and accurate.  It is certainly more than ER4P which my ears could never really adjust to.  As far as Westone, just a tiny bit less bass than the W2. Build quality seems fine.  It is exact size and build style as GR8.  The extremely easy in and out fit is a nice change of pace over the laborious task of inserting complys with a deep insertion, yet isolation is still very adequate.  I don't have a camera worthy of decent pics so can't offer that.
Someone mentioned TFPro comparison.  As a previous TFP owner for about a year, the GR10's are better in every area except bass.  As far as an ER4, granted the GR10 is $400 versus 1/2 that for an ER4....the GR10 is clearly what I would expect from Ety if they were to take another step upwards with an IEM.
Back to the SE535 comparison since I have, the GR10 has much more treble and overall tranparency.  The Shure almost has a veil or haze over everything when switching back.  Slightly more weight to the bass with SE535 yet the Grado seems to have all the timbres intact and very accurate, even drums.  It just does it a bit more politely than what one might be use to.  Again it is a matter of ears adjusting but the Grado is just so revealing.  If you are truly not a basshead, these are for you but some will like a heavier slammier (fabricated) sound which is all fine.  I tend to listen on the loud side and often like to really rock out and the Shures or Westones may be better in that regard.  But for listening at moderate volumes and just trying to take it all in, the Grados are quite euphoric.
The box says the GR10's were made in Japan.  I don't recall if GR8's were made in Japan as well.

[ 本帖最后由 主机 于 2010-11-1 19:45 编辑 ]

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ebay才329+15运费，哪里要399？

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lz火星了，几星期前就看到了