我一個堅定玩瑞寶的朋友,在接觸Altec後告訴我,Altec才是能玩一輩子的東西,當然我也相信他,只是我家放不下 ...
请问您的朋友试了什么后级呢? 小弟每次出去音展其实对9成的音箱都很喜欢..
但这个阶段只听听流行跟女声, 所以想把这瑞宝搞好为止, 兄弟你朋友的经验对我来讲很重要 加点预算大丹合并 oathkeeper 发表于 2023-8-22 13:49
请问您的朋友试了什么后级呢? 小弟每次出去音展其实对9成的音箱都很喜欢..
但这个阶段只听听流行跟女声, ...
好多年前的事了,我印象中只剩Spectral一套,其他的他說都會太過頭,Spectral也沒有瑞寶自己的好
這喇叭不能講力氣,講的是那股巧勁.......其實瑞寶的器材真不好搭配,主要是高頻那飄逸感,用點力氣大的東西進去,聲音就飄不起來,沒那種仙境的感覺了 22659784 发表于 2023-8-22 09:36
我一個堅定玩瑞寶的朋友,在接觸Altec後告訴我,Altec才是能玩一輩子的東西,當然我也相信他,只是我家放不下 ...
primadonna gold体积还是有点大，不好收藏，要是书架的金参考或者银参考真的适合收藏 高頻要飄逸透明，AYRE高頻比金嗓子好很多，我早期用過AB類旗艦綜擴跟60W的AYRE AX7比起來
AQ高頻的透明度、黑背景、空氣感全大輸，後來我換AYRE K5+V5前後級用到現在
，若要推力大聲音更厚實點，停產的V1很合適，預算更夠就前旗艦MXR MONO後級
AYRE絕對不會讓ENSEMBLE高音沾染濁氣，因為我AYRE AX7就是推一代ADMINOTOR
這對自稱ENSEMBLE後繼型號，聲音是否一樣我不敢說，但高音單體跟ENSEMBLE一樣
都是丹麥Hiquphon 真实的广州玩家搭配是拉寡前后级、CD一套推，声音就无需再讲了，只要发挥出撒金粉的感觉就对路了。 弦烧乐韵 发表于 2023-8-25 00:44
真实的广州玩家搭配是拉寡前后级、CD一套推，声音就无需再讲了，只要发挥出撒金粉的感觉就对路了。
拉寡指NAGRA? oathkeeper 发表于 2023-8-25 05:11
拉寡指NAGRA?
就是nagra。瑞宝的音箱就是适合文雅的胆机推啊。用金仔推女声可以其他都一般。当然这个一般是跟高文拉寡比没这么出色而已。 再加一台a30 去年听过，被人买走，4万出头。他用jadis 推。
当时我收集了一些信息，挑着看吧。
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我用罗兰前后级推Ensemble Primadonna Gold 应是佳配之一了
请问：哪位大侠听过老款的瑞宝Ensemble落地箱
型号：Primadonna Gold 早期版
有两个版本：早期版，导向孔在后；后期版，是长条形，在前，更易摆位。
1，请说说听感，优缺点。用啥推的？
2，中高频部分的声音与它后来的音箱，有何不同？
3，侃侃它的前世今生。该箱的技术参数有吗？哪年的产品？当时啥价？现在二手多少钱？
请大家指教！先谢！
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carl11529
STRENGTH:
Have my pair for several years. Use Esoteric RZ-1 to drive them. Emphasizing bass to get satisfactory result. Tonal purity is the major strength. The performance of string ensemble is almost unsurpassable. Forever to stay in my speakers collection, together with SF Guarneri Homage, and Electa Amator 1, and Evett & Shaw Elan.
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Not suitable for large-scale orchestral music, and heavy metal perhaps.
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bhirskyj
STRENGTH:
Very natural sound with surprising deep bass for a small unit in a big box, very good imaging. Extremely revealing, so if you are a stupid person and runs them with crap, guess what they sound crap. I used Primare 928 amps or Trilogy 990/909 EL34 amps and they sound wonderful, even better than the PA-1 Reference. If you really want trouser flapping bass, use a Velodyne DD15+ and put the signal through it and it will cut the main speakers off at 80Hz, so you have loud with big bass. Easy to position, I use them A B Out 0.5M from the back wall.
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There is a small-ish unit that can only handle so much, so not for discos with a suitable sub. Expensive, but once you hear them you will have to buy.
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michael wong
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i have owned Ensemble PA-1 as well as the Reference series. For many years these were my book shelf reference speakers. The high and mids were really good especially for jazz. I matched them with a pair of good sub-woofers to give it more "body". The sound was equivalent to a large speaker. A word of caution. Unlike a large speaker you cannot turn it up to full volume otherwise you damage the speakers. Music is played loud enough for the ears to listen to. They were fantastic speakers. I sold them two years ago and regretted it. I could not find a used pair at the price I expected to pay. I looked for them again for a year and found a pair of Primadona. I have yet to listen to them. I am sure that they are as good as the bookshelf speakers, if not better. OVERALL
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Cedric Lee
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STRENGTH:
Full range balance...
WEAKNESS:
Not everyone likes its bass character
My system consists of JA Michell turntable, Sony SCD-1, ARC SP11 pre-amp, Manley 300B power amp and this Ensemble Primadonna. Before I bought these speakers, I know nothing A B Out them. I was just attracted by its appearance, unique design of speaker compartment. I asked the salesman whether it can be served well by my small-power 300B amp. I took a listen once he said no problem. Once it sound, I agree that it is easy to drive it well. When the music died, the mid-to-high range sounds very very good and which I never heard before. The Primadonna consists of a 1" tweeter and a 5-1/2" mid-bass driver. It seems the box size and the size of drivers are not in proportion. Many people beleive that it don't perform well in low range. However, I can gurantee it can provide a quality bass if you choose a right pair of speaker cable to it. My choice is XLO signature 5.1. Eventhought its lower range character is not punching-heart, it still can extend very very low. When I tested it, I compare it with ProAc 3.8. The outcome is Response3.8 is nothing when stand beside Primadonna, even Westlake BBSM8 with all kind of Music. The only thing cannot be comparible is low range. The bass from Primadonna sounds very unique, not in quantity, in quality. It really provides an unique, deep and ture bass range. However, if your listening area is smaller than 200 sq feet, this is your right choice.
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Westlake BBSM8, B&W N802, Revel Ultimate OVERALL
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Michael Lee
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I owned the Ensemble Primadonna for almost two years now. If you have a mid-size room and largely listen to vocal and jazz music, this is the speaker you won't regret investing in.
I am using Sutherland A1000 and C2000 preamp, source component is Goldmund 10P and transport. OVERALL
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Just had a chance to listen to the Primadonna, driven by Gryphon equipment. Source is an Ensemble CD transport.I heard the Ensemble Reference Silver a while back and were very impressed with the sound.
I had the same high hopes for the Primadonna, but the experience turned out to be a little disappointing.
Ensemble has arguably the 'most human' tonal reproduction of all speakers. The Primadonna was no different. Tone was wonderful. Voice really sounds like human voice.
However, due to its 4in woofer, the Primadonna cannot reproduce deep bass at all. I listened to Mahler no2's ending with the Primadonna and the organ sound was so soft that you could hardly pick it up.
From Mid-low bass downards, the sound is thin. Midrange and highs are pretty good, but the lower end is simply not there.
These speakers will do fine job if you are looking for mids and highs. but if you listen to large orchestral music (such as Mahler), the Primadonna won't be able to reproduce the 'scale' of such pieces. OVERALL
RATING 3 ★★★★★
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StereoFiend
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THIS SPEAKER USES A STYROFOAM COFFEE CUP FOR A MIDRANGE! IT IS AN OVERPRICED PIECE OF EURO-JUNK. NO BASS, NO DYNAMICS, NO HIGHS, NOTHING, IT SOUNDS WORSE THAN ANY BOOM BOX YOU CAN BUY AT BEST-BUY, CIRCUIT CITY, OR J&R MUSIC WORLD. DO NOT BUY THIS YOU ARE SERIOUSLY MAKING A BIG, BIG MISTAKE OVERALL
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