kiddnie 发表于 2022-11-28 22:49:22

擦肩而过的SR-X9000

   Stax的新旗舰SR-X9000很多朋友都很关注,恰好我最近和X9000也有一段“露水姻缘”,分享给各位。
事情是这样:作为一个静电玩家,BSHE+ES1a的组合我已经听了两年,由于平时听的99%都是古典音乐。我对于自己这套系统几乎没有什么抱怨,但是发烧友的习性都是一样的——阶段性的想折腾。这不双11,还是想体验一下STAX的新旗舰SR-X9000。于是查了下价格,简单还价,付钱一气呵成,就等着到货了。说起来也是运气好,本来要等一个月,结果另一个兄弟由于被封控,他的货就先给我了。迅速开箱之后就插在BHSE上听了起来,我老婆说我那天喜悦之情溢于言表… 关于声音表现我最后会提一下,因为这并不是这篇文章想要传递的Key message。第一天我听了差不多4小时,在换最后一张碟的时候,我隐约觉得右边声音有点点小,当时也很晚了,就没在意。第二天起床,第一件事依然是听X9000,结果一开声右边声音几乎不可闻,我马上换了ES1a,一切正常,再把X9000的线取下,重新插,依然没有声音,我意识到这耳机肯定有质量问题,当即联系卖家,直接开车到上海与卖家沟通。在我写这篇文章的时候,这件事已经妥善解决了,不得不说卖家还是负责的,但是当天我与卖家沟通的时候,有些信息,我认为很有必要跟烧友们分享:1.    卖家用Stax的官方放测试后确认右边没有声音,然后询问我用什么耳放推的,当知道我是BHSE用家后,卖家指出中国的STAX代理告诉他们:BHSE的输出功率远高于STAX官方耳放,所以会推坏。2.    他们既往也有BHSE用家推坏过009s。所以,卖家表示目前的情况需要将耳机送回厂家检测,如果是质量问题可以退货退款,如果是推坏的可能只能维修。3.    作为一个理性的发烧友我当然不能接受这种结论,并且在我的印象中,所有第三方静电放输出到振膜的偏压都是580V,而这种只听了4小时就出问题的耳机,怎么也不能归咎于使用不当吧。于是,我发邮件给Headamp,问了关于BHSE和SR-X9000适配性的问题,Justin回复的原文,我贴在这供大家参考:






kiddnie 发表于 2022-11-28 22:51:35

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kiddnie 发表于 2022-11-28 22:53:50

后来我又问了关于耳放搭配的问题,Jusin的回复

kiddnie 发表于 2022-11-28 22:55:05

所以Juisin的回复至少有三个重点:1. 确认了输出到振膜的偏压都是580v,输出电压是会大一些,但是相比于STAX的耳放并没有大那么多,并且这是一个理论值。2. 由于他们也是STAX在美国的代理,所以他们发现最近15个X9000里,就有一个有故障,并且很多并没有使用BHSE。3. SR-007 (Omega)series 从来没有问题, L300/500/700 (Lambda) series也没有什么问题. SR-009 series 有一些偏音问题,但都是使用时间长了之后出现的。目前X9000的故障都是立即出现的,X9000长期的可靠性还有待观察。再给大家提供另一个侧面的信息,我在和一位资深大佬聊ES1a的时候,提到一嘴我的X9000刚到就偏音了,结果大佬说他的也是!!!不过后来自己修好了(不亏是大佬)。最后谈一下我个人的观点:1. 作为一个普通发烧友,如果STAX是这种品控,并且代理是这种论调,那我可能很难再购买STAX的任何产品了,也请各位想购入X9000的烧友要谨慎,因为最近这批货似乎确实有些问题。但是第一批购入的烧友好像没什么类似的问题。2. 说下声音,由于我只听了4小时,只是一些初步的印象,和ES1a相比:X9000声音更加细腻,带些轻微的染色。音场无疑是一大特色,确实乐器会分的更开一些。也许是搭配的问题或者是风格的问题,BHSE下的X9000总感觉柔柔的,松松的,ES1a则阳刚,雄健很多。3. 经过这一次,只能说好好赚钱上HE1 了BTW:我这次的X9000编号是:1599

hotprc 发表于 2022-11-29 11:05:05

lz听感说得不多但隐隐感觉和我听到的很契合,本来还想入一只X9000的,现在看来要再观望下了

孟获 发表于 2022-11-29 18:31:00

这不是擦肩而过,这是擦枪走火。

amex 发表于 2022-11-29 18:42:57

冷知识:
1、同一个耳机,你听到的音量一样,进入耳机的功率就是一样的,和耳放的最大功率无关
2、直流分量可能会烧动圈耳机,但静电耳机是电容的所以不存在直流电流
换句话说就是,只要你耳朵还没聋,就不可能是耳放的锅

rockyroad 发表于 2022-11-29 22:03:26

amex 发表于 2022-11-29 18:42
冷知识:
1、同一个耳机,你听到的音量一样,进入耳机的功率就是一样的,和耳放的最大功率无关
2、直流分 ...

我的理解也是这样的w。
所以stax的说法我的理解是免责声明。

the6world 发表于 2022-12-1 10:14:43

STAX现在的品控这么差了吗,真是难以想象。

聆听的人 发表于 2022-12-2 21:20:50

确定耳机没外伤就是品控问题了,代理应该直接换新或者全款退

沉迷 发表于 2022-12-3 15:16:52

赞楼主,给准备入手的坛友一个非常有含金量的提请!

虽然不是静电用户,还是必须为楼主点赞 :)

WandererST 发表于 2022-12-3 19:32:44

持币观望:lol

sf15 发表于 2022-12-4 10:42:23

看来想入stax x9000还得等等啊,009/s系列出这么久了,也没见BHSE推出啥问题

小白 发表于 2022-12-5 11:55:56

不光是X9000,STAX耳机本身就有一定偏音概率。

snova 发表于 2022-12-5 12:27:06

品控~~想起两个著名螃蟹,K812、乌托邦
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