本帖最后由 mvw 于 2015-8-3 17:23 编辑
隔壁帝捷已经发布了：bbs.erji.com/read.php?tid=1836145
最起码没成黑的，不过这都下手绝对真爱啊。
顺及，哪位知道帝捷在白牙里股权到多少了？
哪里有铝盒换布盒......
转隔壁帝捷代理文字 :
近日德国拜亚发布了旗舰型号耳机T1的升级版T1二代，改为可换线设计，并且在整体音质方面有大幅度进步。今年9月左右上市，预计零售价8600元。
T1二代相比一代具有更加充沛的低频量感和精准的低音区细节表现力，声底更加坚实。并且总体音质稍微温和一些，高频更加柔顺。
优化了声音反射板的结构设计，并且反射板采用了更加坚韧的复合式材料，大幅度降低了谐震，声音更加清澈，使T1二代的整体音质素质达到新的高度。
T1二代的可换线结构为双线3.5mm插口，拜亚特制锁扣，原配线为7N无氧铜高等级耳机线，有编织物包裹可提高屏蔽性。并且有原厂4芯平衡口耳机线可供选购。
T1二代大部分保留了一代的特性：几乎同样的外观、特斯拉单元、半开放式设计、600欧姆阻抗，以及德国原产。
T1一代已宣布停产，二代将成为德国拜亚耳机的新旗舰型号
看了这种介绍，我感觉应该赶紧收一个“第一代T1”。新款T1很可能是一个庸俗调声版的T1。
本帖最后由 chaisan 于 2015-8-3 18:33 编辑
要收第一代的T1，也应该收头版的。。。后期新版的T1，我觉得不怎么样，振膜的高频很难控制可能有物理级别的失真问题，导致高频区有些硬。好像拜亚这次自己也提到了T1一代的一些问题。
T1声底不是很绵实么，还要更坚实啊，三频不是很平衡么，还要低频更多啊？会不会太粘稠了,太威猛了。
多么希望升级的是声场，哈哈
要先澄清一下,上文有些東西是我的推測
比如說定心的部分,原始說明文並沒有這塊
內容是出自beyer於去年底新申請的專利
如果官方有更進一步的說法，還是要以官方為準
另外,鋁盒變成布質(?)硬殼是從上文連結那個pdf檔的說明
如果本地代理商夠力的話，理論上也可以另外跟原廠交涉，畢竟官網就有在賣鋁盒了....:lol
chaisan 发表于 2015-8-3 18:28 static/image/common/back.gif
要收第一代的T1，也应该收头版的。。。后期新版的T1，我觉得不怎么样，振膜的高频很难控制可能有物理级别的 ...
可能跟各位老兄意見不太一樣，其實我不是很苟同老版或頭版就一定比較好的論點
以我的經驗而論,最搶先的,首批的耳機 並不一定比較好
通常做工上 都會有大大小小的瑕疵
以頭版T1為例,最大的毛病就在於那個頭帶非常的怕濕氣，我自己的T1,原始的頭帶表皮
腐蝕的破破爛爛，另外花錢換成毛氈頭帶了事
聲音上，老版耳機可能會比較有點性格，後來生產的耳機，大概都還會針對後續的市場反應做些微調
但是聲音品質應該不會有太大差異，畢竟整個架構都定下來了
楼上，其实1万号也也拍湿气的，我前面一只1万多号曾经有蛮多霉斑.......，后来收的这只13XX号的，保存得当，就一点事情没有。
不过一般头版声音好，工艺可能不够成熟，质量倒是不稳定的.......
donthuang 发表于 2015-8-3 19:48 static/image/common/back.gif
可能跟各位老兄意見不太一樣，其實我不是很苟同老版或頭版就一定比較好的論點
以我的經驗而論,最搶先的 ...
哈哈……我的T1耳罩已经被海风吹成泛红色了:lol
本帖最后由 donthuang 于 2015-8-3 21:25 编辑
次代T1 官方新聞稿
New reference for audiophile music fans
beyerdynamic updates the T 1: the next generation of high-end headphones for an even more sublime audio experience
Heilbronn, August 2015: The T 1 from beyerdynamic represents the highest sound quality and precision craftsmanship. In 2009, the audio specialist from Heilbronn redefined the high-end headphones with its top model for home use. Now it's time for the bar to be raised even higher. When developing the second generation of the T 1, the sound wizards at beyerdynamic subjected their flagship model to some subtle but effective fine tuning.
Silky-smooth warmth meets precise bass
The T 1 has always been a paragon of transparency and precision. Now, thanks to new, further improved tuning, the dynamic and clean sound of the original has been enhanced with a touch more warmth and musicality that will have audiophile listeners in raptures. The new T 1 also steps up its game in terms of the bass, giving contemporary music lovers the solid, low-frequency foundation they are looking for.
在原本通透的前提上,強調溫暖,音樂性與低頻的權威感
從這個形容來看,感覺會更往DT990的方向靠攏 (當然是推好為前提的990)
Studio-quality plug-in cable
The connection cable with fabric sheathing and threaded jack plug ensures optimum transmission. Its conductors, made from ultra-pure OCC copper, are among the best the industry has to offer. The supplied lead can be removed from the headphones and, if required, exchanged for an optional cable with 4-pin XLR connector. This enables users with a headphone amplifier with the right outputs to take advantage of 'symmetrical transmission'. This connection method, used in professional equipment, prevents faults on the conduction path – acoustically, the cable practically melts into thin air.
New materials for maximum comfort
Two new ear cushions ensure that listening to music is also a comfortable experience. The fleecy velour made from hollow fibres transports warmth and moisture away from the wearer's head, allowing you to listen for hours without getting the dreaded 'hot ears'. A memory foam layer beneath the velour covers makes the cushions exceptionally soft. Even in terms of comfort, the T 1 is state of the art.
When not in use, the headphones can be stored in a luxurious hard case with a hinged lid. Not only is this ideal for transporting the headphones, but also perfect for displaying this classic piece next to your hi-fi system at home.
Unique Tesla technology "Made in Germany"
The developers have not changed anything in terms of the basic design: The T 1 remains the only high-end set of headphones in the world to feature 600-ohm transducers. beyerdynamic is the only company to use such delicate moving coils to convert electric currents into an explosion of acoustic colours and fine dynamic precision.
Special machines and experienced employees at the company's headquarters in Heilbronn are required to wind the coils. The wafer-thin copper wire is only around half as thick as a human hair. A further speciality of the company is also required: the exclusive Tesla transducers. With their powerful magnetic drives, they are able to compensate for the fundamentally higher voltage requirements of high-impedance moving coils. As a result, the T 1 reaches at-home listening volumes that other manufacturers would only be able to achieve using transducers of simpler construction and with significantly lower impedance. A sound such as that produced by the T 1 can only be achieved using Tesla technology.
The new T 1 i will be available from mid-August in specialist stores and on www.beyerdynamic.com at a price of 990 Euro. You can test it at the beyerdynamic booth at the IFA (hall 1.2, booth 204).in Berlin from September 4th to 9th, 2015.Characters in the German press release (including spaces): 3,629; lines: 64
Publication free of charge; specimen copy requested.
Technical Data
Transducer type dynamic
Operating principle semi-open
Nominal frequency response 5 - 50,000 Hz
Nominal impedance 600 Ω
Nominal SPL 102 dB
T.H.D. 0.05%
Sound coupling to the ear circumaural
Power handling capacity 300 mW
Weight without cable 360 g
Cable 3 m, double-sided, detachable OCC 7N copper conductors, textile braided
Connection gold vaporized mini stereo jack plug (3.5 mm) & 1/4“ adapter (6.35 mm)
Accessory luxury grade hard carry case
Warranty 5 years
Recommended retail price 990,- Euro
硬體規格看起來沒變化
donthuang 发表于 2015-8-3 21:23 static/image/common/back.gif
次代T1 官方新聞稿
New reference for audiophile music fans
“ 從這個形容來看,感覺會更往DT990的方向靠攏 (當然是推好為前提的990)”
如果加入80年代首版DT990那种静时柔情似水、动时奔放澎湃的特质，那将会是相当有魅力的声音！
T1二代相比一代具有更加充沛的低频量感和精准的低音区细节表现力，声底更加坚实。
还他妈要低频充沛，更加坚实。
这越来越不能听了啊
Accessory luxury grade hard carry case
Warranty 5 years
5年质保！帝捷几年？
donthuang 发表于 2015-8-3 19:38 static/image/common/back.gif
要先澄清一下,上文有些東西是我的推測
比如說定心的部分,原始說明文並沒有這塊
这专利有没有用在T1mk2上？
