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小白 发表于 2013-4-20 17:16:53

所谓“盗版商”的概念,是否指它发行的录音,事实上都是别家出版过的内容?它只是盗用别家现成的digital remastering重新编辑出版?我觉得德国Membran出版的很多便宜包子,就是这个做法。

chaisan 发表于 2013-4-20 17:21:48

原帖由 小白 于 2013-4-20 17:16 发表 http://bbs.headphoneclub.com/images/common/back.gif
所谓“盗版商”的概念,是否指它发行的录音,事实上都是别家出版过的内容?它只是盗用别家现成的digital remastering重新编辑出版?我觉得德国Membran出版的很多便宜包子,就是这个做法。
不过奇怪的是,Venezia的音质真的是做得很好,会让人一听就觉得是从原始母带那种级别的源头,而不是像某些盗版商胡乱找些别家的素材就复制。

而且我甚至觉得是“重新转制”过的。

asakiota 发表于 2013-4-20 18:27:23

買過Venezia的Kondrashin肖交包子
轉制非常的重口味

zslys 发表于 2013-4-20 22:03:24

这套值得一收 看了下曲目还收了幻想交响曲 不错不错

张花花 发表于 2013-4-20 22:34:52

找了下目录


Disc1
Beethoven:
Piano Sonata No. 1 in F minor op.2-1
Recorded live at the Moscow Conservatory Great Hall October 10, 1976

· Op.2-3 Piano Sonata No. 3 in C major
Recorded live in Leningrad in June 1960

Piano Sonata No. 4 in E flat major op.7
Recorded live at the Moscow Conservatory Great Hall January 12 1975

Disc2
· Op.10-2 No. 6 in F major Piano Sonata
Recorded live at the Moscow Conservatory Great Hall December 20 1980

· Op.10-3 Piano Sonata No. 7 in D major
Recorded live in Leningrad in June 1960

Piano Sonata No. 8 in C minor, op.13 "Pathetique"
Recording studio in Moscow June 4, 1959

Disc3
Piano Sonata No. 9 in E flat major op.14-1
Recorded live at the Moscow Conservatory Great Hall June 5 1947

Piano Sonata No. 10 in G major, op.14-2
Recorded live at the Moscow Conservatory Great Hall November 29 1962

Piano Sonata No. 12 in A major op.26 strange
Recorded live at the Moscow Conservatory Great Hall 1961

Disc4
Piano Sonata No. 17 D minor op.31-2 "Tempest"
Recorded live at the Moscow Conservatory Great Hall October 10 1965

· Op.31-3 Piano Sonata No. 18 in E flat major
Recorded live at the 10th recording Moscow Conservatory Great Hall October 1965

Piano Sonata No. 19 in G minor, op.49-1
Recorded live in Leningrad in January 1965

Disc5
Piano Sonata No. 22 in F major, op.54
Recorded live at the Moscow Conservatory Great Hall January 17, 1951

Piano Sonata No. 23 in F minor, op.57 "Appassionata"
Recorded live at the Moscow Conservatory Great Hall June 9 1960

Piano Sonata No. 27 in E minor, op.90
Recorded live at the Moscow Conservatory Great Hall January 10 1965

Disc6
Piano Sonata No. 28 in A major op.101
Recorded live at the Moscow Conservatory Great Hall October 10 1965

Piano Sonata No. 30 in E flat major, op.110
Recorded live at the Moscow Conservatory Great Hall January 22 1972

Piano Sonata No. 31 in A major op.110 strange
Recorded live at the Moscow Conservatory Great Hall October 10 1965

Disc7
Piano Sonata No. 32 in C minor, op.111
Recorded live at the Moscow Conservatory Great Hall January 12 1975

· Bagatelle Collection (8 pieces)
Op.33-3 in F major
Op.33-5 in C major
Op.119-2 in C major
Op.119-7 in C major
A minor op.119-9
G major op.126-1
Op.126-4 in B minor
Op.126-6 in E flat major
Recording studio in Moscow July 6 1959

- Eroica Variations in E flat major op.35
Recorded live at the Moscow Conservatory Great Hall January 17 1951

Disc8
Piano Concerto No. 3 in C minor, op.37
Hermann Abendroth command, the Soviet Union National Symphony Orchestra
Recorded live at the Moscow Conservatory Great Hall October 25 1954

Chorus Fantasia in C minor, op.80
Kurt Sanderling Conductor, Moscow Radio Symphony Orchestra
Recording studio in Moscow February 23 1952

Suvu~iyatosurafu Richter (piano)

zeppelin 发表于 2013-4-20 23:34:14

多少钱一套,另外这些是首发,还是以前其他的公司已经发过了

chaisan 发表于 2013-4-21 06:38:27

原帖由 zeppelin 于 2013-4-20 23:34 发表 http://bbs.headphoneclub.com/images/common/back.gif
多少钱一套,另外这些是首发,还是以前其他的公司已经发过了
淘宝上卖380,我从hmv japan买的,花了320元。

有一小部分内容和Brilliant的李赫特小包子有重复。

snova 发表于 2013-4-21 12:57:24

原帖由 小白 于 2013-4-20 17:16 发表 http://bbs.headphoneclub.com/images/common/back.gif
所谓“盗版商”的概念,是否指它发行的录音,事实上都是别家出版过的内容?它只是盗用别家现成的digital remastering重新编辑出版?我觉得德国Membran出版的很多便宜包子,就是这个做法。
Membran有时也要自己动动手,被一些乐迷称为“无机转录”;P

mj7729 发表于 2013-4-21 18:13:38

我也买回来了

小白 发表于 2013-4-21 22:20:37

很全啊,貌似李赫特的贝多芬奏鸣曲曲目,有录音的,这都收了。没有的那些奏鸣曲就是没录音的。不过貌似没有“首发”。这年头,想找出“首发”的李贺特录音,太难了。

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xaiverwx 发表于 2013-4-26 22:33:46

和辉煌那个包子比较,哪个值得收?

ypwangwei 发表于 2013-4-27 07:37:32

回复 1# 的帖子

问问看都是现场吗? 和飞记授权录音里的贝钢奏比如何呢?

chaisan 发表于 2013-4-27 07:47:37

原帖由 xaiverwx 于 2013-4-26 22:33 发表 http://bbs.headphoneclub.com/images/common/back.gif
和辉煌那个包子比较,哪个值得收?
这两个包子有一小部分重复(录音完全相同),其他还有区别。Brilliant的包子还包括了舒伯特的奏鸣曲和李斯特B小调sonata。

所以李赫特迷的话,这两个都是要收的。

chaisan 发表于 2013-4-27 07:50:27

原帖由 ypwangwei 于 2013-4-27 07:37 发表 http://bbs.headphoneclub.com/images/common/back.gif
问问看都是现场吗? 和飞记授权录音里的贝钢奏比如何呢?
全都是现场。我觉得比飞记要好。
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