ESOTERIC的sacd值不值得买？古尔达的莫协23，26。请听过的大哥叔叔过来说说呗？
不准备买莫协的全集了超级喜欢古尔达的莫扎特，无论钢协还是钢奏。
不过这两首一来没听过，二来两首曲子居然要三百！占了每个月在碟上面支出的一半啊:'(
请问这两首录音就没有其他的碟吗？
[ 本帖最后由 zscfwhdrsqj 于 2011-11-13 21:02 编辑 ] 谁买谁是傻瓜,那么贵! 个人觉得如果真的很喜欢就值，如果一般喜欢就算了
日本还有2W日元一张的SACD呢，爱买不买，你买不起不代表没人买 原帖由 sentence 于 2011-11-13 19:34 发表 http://bbs.headphoneclub.com/images/common/back.gif
个人觉得如果真的很喜欢就值，如果一般喜欢就算了
日本还有2W日元一张的SACD呢，爱买不买，你买不起不代表没人买 古尔达的莫邪屌爆了!我倒是没理解哈斯基尔奶奶的好在哪:L 我有古尔达的莫扎特第20钢协，我觉得不怎么样，偏冷静了。 听得多了，古尔达的也就不足为奇了:lol 原帖由 hongyingdang 于 2011-11-18 11:14 发表 http://bbs.headphoneclub.com/images/common/back.gif
我有古尔达的莫扎特第20钢协，我觉得不怎么样，偏冷静了。 卡钦的不冷静，典型的大德意志风格，是我喜欢的一个20号钢协的版本。还有拉罗查的20号，古尔达的20号没仔细听。
倒是不喜欢英国那个老头叫什么来着，还有哈斯基尔老奶奶的也不是太喜欢，听起来没感觉，好像太温柔了点。还是喜欢卡钦的大开大合和拉罗查的细腻轻柔:lol 原帖由 nzjcy 于 2011-11-18 12:07 发表 http://bbs.headphoneclub.com/images/common/back.gif
听得多了，古尔达的也就不足为奇了:lol 古尔达的莫扎特不算好嘛？我欣赏能力有限，钢奏就只喜欢古尔达和席夫的，莫邪也是他的cd最多，兼收其他人的。
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钢协比他好的很多:$ 原帖由 nzjcy 于 2011-11-18 15:47 发表 http://bbs.headphoneclub.com/images/common/back.gif钢协比他好的很多:$ 呵呵，我正好也在收这个，比如说谁的？ 花那么贵买那个碟:L 还要有SACD机:Q华纳至少出过两版:( 便宜啊:(
有钱就?没钱就? 这是Gulda演奏Mozart的全部录音清单！有毅力的话能够搞全！:Q :L :'( :funk: :(
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Piano Concerto No.9 in E flat major, K.281 "Jeunehomme"
1) 1967, München(live, monaural)
* withKarl B?hm / Symfonie-Orchester der Bayerischen Rundfunk
* CD ; Golden Melodram GM 4.0066(3 set)
2) 30th Sep. 1969, Herkulessaal, Residenz, München(live)
* withKarl B?hm / Symfonie-Orchester der Bayerischen Rundfunk
* CD ; Orfeo C 263 921 B, King Record KKCC 4274
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Piano Concerto No.14 in E flat major, K.449
1) 15,16th Sep. 1954(monaural)
* withAnthony Collins / New Symphony of London
* CD ; London POCL-4395
2) 2nd Aug. 1958, Mozarteum, Salzburg(live; monaural)
* withWolfgang Sawallisch / Royal Concertgebouw, Amsterdam
* CD ; Orfeo d'or 795 091
3) 16th Jan. 1962, SWF Musikstudio, Baden-Baden(monaural)
* withHans Losbaud / SWF-Symfonieorchester
* CD ; Passion & Concentration PACO-1025
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Piano Concerto No.17 in G major, K.453
1) 19th Oct. 1960, Wien(?)(stereo)
* withPaul Angerer / Gumma Symphony Orchestra
* CD ; [ originally Amadeo ] Philips PHCP 20327, Vanguard ATM 1185(2 set)
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Piano Concerto No.20 in d minor, K.466
1) ?
* with? / Orchester der Wiener Staatsoper
* CD ; Vanguard ATM 1185(2 set)
2) Sep. 1974, Gro?er Saal, Musikverein, Wien
* withClaudio Abbado / Wiener Philharmoniker
* CD ; DG 415 842-2 / 437 000-2 / 453 079-2(2 set) / F28G 22006 / POCG 2745(2 set) / POCG 3918(2 set) /
POCG 7017 / UCCG 9517 / POCG 90460 / UCCG 9717(SHM-CD)/ UCCG-4614
3) 1980s(?)
* with? / Münchener Philharmoniker
* DVD ; Pioneer 10279
4) 2nd May 1993(live; piano & conducting)
* withNDR Sinfonieorchester
* CD ; NDR 5628572
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Piano Concerto No.21 in C major, K.467
1) Jun. 1962, Wien(?)
* withHans Swarowsky / Orchester der Wiener Volksoper
* CD ; Preiser PRCD 90021, Denon 28C37-31, Scribendum SC 016(4 set)
2) Sep. 1974, Gro?er Saal, Musikverein, Wien
* withClaudio Abbado / Wiener Philharmoniker
* CD ; DG 415 842-2 / 453 079-2(2 set) / 477 7519/ F28G 22006 / POCG 2745(2 set) / POCG 3918(2 set) /
POCG 7017 / POCG 90460 / UCCG 9517 / UCCG 6015 / UCCG 9717(SHM-CD)/ UCCG-4614/
469 256-2(2nd mvt.; 2 set) / 474 044-2(2nd mvt.) / 477 7527(2nd mvt.)
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Piano Concerto No.23 in A major, K.488
1) 15th Jan. 1962, SWF Musikstudio, Baden-Baden(monaural)
* withHans Losbaud / Sinfonieorchester des Sudwestfunks Baden-Baden
* CD ; Faszination musik CD 93.019, Haenssler 93064
2) 1962, München(live, monaural)
* withJoseph Keilberth / Münchener Rundfunkorchester
* CD ; Golden Melodram GM 4.0066(3 set)
3) Sep. 1983, Concertgebouw, Amsterdam
* withNikolaus Harnoncourt / Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra, Amsterdam
* CD ; Teldec 4509-97483-2 / 63984-26773-2 / 8573890912/ #92150 / 0630 15008 2(2 set; only 2nd mvt.) /
8573 / 81862 2(3rd mvt.) / WPCS 21048 / WPCC 5317
4) 3rd May 1993(live; piano & conducting)
* withNDR Sinfonieorchester
* CD ; NDR 5628572
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Piano Concerto No.24 in c minor, K.491
1) ?
* with? / Orchester der Wiener Staatsoper
* CD ; Vanguard ATM 1185(2 set)
2) 27th Feb. & 2nd Mar. 1953, Jesus-Christ-Kirche, Berlin-Dahlem(monaural)
* withIgor Markevitch / RIAS-Sinfonie-Orchester Berlin
* CD ; Audite AU 21404(4 set)
3) 1959, Ludwigsburg(live at Ludwigsburg Festival, monaural)
* withJoseph Keilberth / Sinfonie-Orchester der Stuttgarts Rundfunks
* CD ; Golden Melodram GM 4.0066(3 set)
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Piano Concerto No.25 in C major, K.503
1) 19~21st Sep. 1955, Carlton Rooms, Maida Vale, London(monaural)
* withAnthony Collins / New Symphony of London
* CD ; Testament SBT 1301, Decca UCCD-3483, London POCL-4394
2) 1956, Paris(live, monaural)
* withGeorg Solti / Orchestre National de la Radiodiffusion Fran?aise
* CD ; Golden Melodram GM 4.0066(3 set)
3) May 1975, Gro?er Saal, Musikverein, Wien
* withClaudio Abbado / Wiener Philharmoniker
* CD ; DG 419 479-2 / 453 079-2(2 set) / F28G 22023 / POCG 2745(2 set) / POCG 3918(2 set) / POCG 4034 /
UCCG-4663
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Piano Concerto No.26 in D major, K.537 "Coronation"
1) 19~21st Sep. 1955, Carlton Rooms, Maida Vale, London(monaural)
* withAnthony Collins / New Symphony Orchestra of London
* CD ; Testament SBT 1301, Decca UCCD-3483, London POCL-4394
2) 1980s(?)
* with? / Münchener Philharmoniker
* DVD ; Pioneer 10279
3) Sep. 1983, Concertgebouw, Amsterdam
* withNikolaus Harnoncourt / Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra, Amsterdam
* CD ; Teldec 4509-97483-2 / 63984-26773-2 / 8573890912/ #92150 / WPCS 21048 / WPCC 5317
4) 20th Jul. 1989, Philharmonie, München
* withFriedrich Gulda(p & con) / Münchener Philharmoniker
* CD ; Sony Classical SX2K 48082(2 set; only 2nd mvt. - arr. Gulda)
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Piano Concerto No.27 in B flat major, K.595
1) Jun. 1962, Wien(?)
* withHans Swarowsky / Orchester der Wiener Volksoper
* CD ; Preiser PRCD 90021, Denon 28C37-31, Scribendum SC 016(4 set)
2) 10th Sep. 1967(live)
* withEmil Simon / Orchestra simfonica a Filarmonicii din Cluj
* LP ; Electrocord NI 760~66
3) 29th Nov. 1972, Düsseldorf(live)
* withRudolf Kempe / Münchener Philharmoniker
* CD ; Scribendum SC004
4) May 1975, Gro?er Saal, Musikverein, Wien
* withClaudio Abbado / Wiener Philharmoniker
* CD ; DG 419 479-2 / 437 000-2 / 453 079-2(2 set) / 477 7519/ F28G 22023 / POCG 2745(2 set) / POCG 3918
(2 set) / POCG 4034 / UCCG 6015/ UCCG-4663/ 469 692-2(2 set; 3rd mvt.)
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Concerto for 2 pianos in E flat major, K.365
1) 1994(?)
* withChic Corea(2nd p.) / Nikolaus Harnoncourt / Royal Concertgebouw, Amsterdam
* CD ; Teldec 2292-42988-2 / WPCS 5813 / WPCC 5318
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Quintet for piano and oboe, clarinet, bassoon, and horn in E flat major, K.452
1) 13,14th Apr. 1960, Mozartsaal, Konzerthaus, Wien
* withWind group of the Wiener Philharmoniker
* CD ; DG 435 593-2 / POCG 6012
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Piano Sonata No.1 in C major, K.279
1) 1980, Weissenbach, Attersee, Germany(live)
* CD ; DG 477 6130(3 set) / 477 8466(6 set)/ UCCG-1288(3 set) / UCCG-1480(6 set)
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Piano Sonata No.2 in F major, K.280
1) 1980, Weissenbach, Attersee, Germany(live)
* CD ; DG 477 6130(3 set) / 477 8466(6 set)/ UCCG-1288(3 set) / UCCG-1480(6 set)
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Piano Sonata No.3 in B flat major, K.281
1) 1980, Weissenbach, Attersee, Germany(live)
* CD ; DG 477 6130(3 set) / 477 8466(6 set)/ UCCG-1288(3 set) / UCCG-1480(6 set)
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Piano Sonata No.4 in E flat major, K.282
1) 1980, Weissenbach, Attersee, Germany(live)
* CD ; DG 477 6130(3 set) / 477 8466(6 set)/ UCCG-1288(3 set) / UCCG-1480(6 set)
2) 1981, München(live)
* DVD ; Amadeo 60027, Dreamtime DEBC 14821
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Piano Sonata No.5 in G major, K.283
1) 1980, Austria(live; monaural)
* CD ; DG 477 6130(3 set) / 477 8466(6 set)/ UCCG-1288(3 set) / UCCG-1480(6 set)
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Piano Sonata No.6 in D major, K.284
1) Nov. 1982, Weissenbach, Attersee, Germany
* CD ; DG 477 6130(3 set) / 477 8466(6 set)/ UCCG-1288(3 set) / UCCG-1480(6 set)
2) 17th Jul. 1988, Philharmonie, München(live)
* CD ; Amadeo 427 800-2(only 3rd mvt.)
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Piano Sonata No.8 in a minor, K.310
1) 10, 12~14th Feb. 1953(monaural)
* CD ; London POCL-4395
2) 19th Jan. 1968, Lugano(live, by Radiotelevisione Svizzera Italiana)
* CD ; Aura Classics AUR 112
3) Nov. 1982, Weissenbach, Attersee, Germany
* CD ; DG 477 6130(3 set) / 477 8466(6 set)/ UCCG-1288(3 set) / UCCG-1480(6 set)
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Piano Sonata No.9 in D major, K.311
1) 1980, Weissenbach, Attersee, Germany(live)
* CD ; DG 477 6130(3 set) / 477 8466(6 set)/ UCCG-1288(3 set) / UCCG-1480(6 set)
2) 1981, München(live)
* DVD ; Amado 60027, Dreamtime DEBC 14821
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Piano Sonata No.10 in C major, K.330
1) 1960s(?)
* CD ; [ originally Amadeo ] Philips PHCP 20335(2 set)
2) 1980, Weissenbach, Attersee, Germany(live)
* CD ; DG 477 6130(3 set) / 477 8466(6 set)/ UCCG-1288(3 set) / UCCG-1480(6 set)
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Piano Sonata No.11 in A major, K.331 "Turkish March"
1) 13~15th Nov. 1961, Wien(only 3rd mvt.)
* CD ; Philips PHCP-20330 / UCCP-9566
2) Jan. 1977
* CD ; Amadeo(+No.13) / Amadeo(+No.13,15, K.485) / Amadeo 431 117-2(3 set), Philips PHCP 20328 /
PHCP-9251
3) Nov. 1982, Weissenbach, Attersee, Germany
* CD ; DG 477 6130(3 set) / 477 8466(6 set)/ UCCG-1288(3 set) / UCCG-1480(6 set)
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Piano Sonata No.12 in F major, K.332
1) 1960s(?)
* CD ; [ originally Amadeo ] Philips PHCP 20335(2 set)
2) 1980, Weissenbach, Attersee, Germany(live)
* CD ; DG 477 7152(2 set) / 477 8466(6 set)/ UCCG-1381(2 set) / UCCG-1480(6 set)
3) 1981, München(live)
* DVD ; Amado 60027, Dreamtime DEBC 14821
4) 1997(2nd mvt. only)
* CD ; DG 477 8466(6 set) / UCCG-1480(6 set)
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Piano Sonata No.13 in B flat major, K.333
1) Jan. 1977
* CD ; Amadeo(+No.11) / Amadeo(+No.11,15, K.485) / Amadeo 431 117-2(3 set), Philips PHCP 20328 /
PHCP-9251
2) 1980, Weissenbach, Attersee, Germany(live)
* CD ; DG 477 7152(2 set) / 477 8466(6 set)/ UCCG-1381(2 set) / UCCG-1480(6 set)
3) 1980s(?)
* DVD ; Pioneer 10474
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Piano Sonata No.14 in c minor, K.457
1) 1981, München(live)
* DVD ; Amado 60027, Dreamtime DEBC 14821
2) Nov. 1982, Weissenbach, Attersee, Germany
* CD ; DG 477 7152(2 set) / 477 8466(6 set)/ UCCG-1381(2 set) / UCCG-1480(6 set)
3) 14th Jun. 1990, Wien
* CD ; Sony Classical SX2K 48082(2 set)
4) 31st Jul. 1993, Montpellier Festival(live)
* CD ; Accord 4761894(2 set)
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Piano Sonata No.15 in C major, K.545
1) Jan. 1965, Wien
* CD ; Amadeo(+No.11,13, K.485) / 476 300-7, Philips PHCP 20328 / UCCP-3287 / 477 8466(6 set; 2nd mvt.)/
UCCG-1480(6 set; 2nd mvt)
2) 1980, Weissenbach, Attersee, Germany(live)
* CD ; DG 477 7152(2 set) / 477 8466(6 set)/ UCCG-1381(2 set) / UCCG-1480(6 set)
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Piano Sonata No.16 in B flat major, K.570
1) Sep. 1978, Residenz, Herkulessaal, München
* CD ; DG 431 084-2 / 459 247-2(only 2nd mvt.) / POCG 1068 / POCG 20077 / UCCG 9479
2) Nov. 1982, Weissenbach, Attersee, Germany
* CD ; DG 477 7152(2 set) / 477 8466(6 set)/ UCCG-1381(2 set) / UCCG-1480(6 set)
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Piano Sonata No.17 in D major, K.576
1) Dec. 1948 , London(monaural)
* CD ; Decca 476 3045(DE)
2) Sep. 1978, Residenz, Herkulessaal, München
* CD ; DG 431 0842 / POCG 1068 / POCG 20077 / UCCG 9479
3) Nov. 1982, Weissenbach, Attersee, Germany
* CD ; DG 477 7152(2 set) / 477 8466(6 set)/ UCCG-1381(2 set) / UCCG-1480(6 set)
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Fantasia in d minor, K.397(385g)
1) 1978, Musikverein, Wien(live)
* CD ; DG 477 8466(6 set) / UCCG-1480(6 set)
2) 19th Nov. 1990, Philharmonie am Gasteig, München(live)
* CD ; Sony Classical SMK 52499 / SICC 335
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Fantasia in c minor, K.475
1) Sep. 1978, Residenz, Herkulessaal, München
* CD ; DG 431 0842 / POCG 1068 / POCG 20077 / UCCG 9479
2) 1980, Weissenbach, Attersee, Germany(live)
* CD ; DG 477 7152(2 set) / 477 8466(6 set)/ UCCG-1381(2 set) / UCCG-1480(6 set)
3) 1981, München(live)
* DVD ; Amado 60027, Dreamtime DEBC 14821
4) 14th Jun. 1990, Wien
* CD ; Sony Classical SX2K 48082(2 set)
5) 31st Jul. 1993, Montpellier Festival(live)
* CD ; Accord 4761894(2 set)
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Rondo in D major K.485
1) 10, 12~14th Feb. 1953(monaural)
* CD ; London POCL-4395
2) 13~15th Nov. 1961, Wien
* CD ; Amadeo(+Sonata No.11,13,15), Philips PHCP 20328 / UCCP-9566
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Variations for piano
1. 'ein holl?ndisches Lied', G major, K.24
2. 'das niederl?ndische Lied Wilhelm von Nassau',F major, K.25
3. 6 variations by Allegretto in F major, K.54
4. 12 variations by 'ein Menuett von J. Ch. Fischer', C major, K.179
5. 6 variations by 'Mio caro Adone' from "Benezian market" by Salieri, G major, K.180(173c)
6. 'Lison dormait', C major, K.264
7. 'Ah, vous dirai-je, Maman', C major, K.265
8. 12 variations by 'La belle Fran?oise', E flat major, K.353
9. 9 variations by 'Je suis Lindor', E flat major, K.354
10. 6 variations by 'Salve tu Domine' from Paisiello's opera, F major, K.398
11. 10 variations by 'Unser dummer P?bel meint', G major, K.455
12. 'Come un agnello', A major, K.460
13. 12 variations by Allegretto in B flat major, K.500
14. 9 variations 'Duport-Variationen', D major, K.573
15. 8 variations by 'Ein Weib ist das herrlichste Ding', F major, K.613
16. 8 variations by 'Gretry's Marsch aus Les Mariages Samnites', F major
Apr. 1956, S?o Paulo(live; monaural; no.10)
Opera 'Le Nozze di Figaro', K.492; Susanna's recitativo & aria(arr. Gulda)
31st Jul. 1993, Montpellier Festival(live)
* CD ; Accord 4761894(2 set), DG 477 8466(6 set)/ UCCG-1480(6 set)
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